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Schatzie
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posted February 10, 2003 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Schatzie        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by datalore:

Incredibly good taste of schatzie to have mentioned this!


Thanks!

I was not around for the silver age, but in every way that matters I am a silver age fan and the Superman/Flash races look as if they would be a blast to read!

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Scott Thiel
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posted February 11, 2003 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Thiel   Click Here to Email Scott Thiel        Reply w/Quote
HI BOB,

I am sure you don't remember me.
It was been 17-18 years ago.
You publish two letters that I wrote that appear in Batman #391 and #399.

You made that 16 year old comic book geek very HAPYY!!

Thanks, BOB!!

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THORmonger
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posted February 11, 2003 06:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for THORmonger   Click Here to Email THORmonger        Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure if it would be feasible, but I'd be into a TPB of all the Crime Syndicate's appearances prior to JLA: Earth 2. I know their first appearances were featured in the Crisis On Multiple Earths TPB, but still, it could be fun. I remember "Crisis On Earth Prime" being a wild crossover, and I'd love to be able to get that collected into one volume. That, and there are those SSOSV and DCCP appearances, off the top of my head.

The DC Direct CSA just rekindled my interest in them, and they were probably my favorite villain team as a young'un.

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segaboi24
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posted February 11, 2003 07:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for segaboi24        Reply w/Quote
Bob

few questions

1.any new batman trades that isn't of any work of the past 2 to 3 years? like further back.i know contagion is getting re-released but surely there's gotta be some material further back that's worth collecting.

2.was there a tpb of The Final Night and if so any chance of it being brought back.if not any possibility of getting one done

Jess

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Bob Greenberger
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posted February 11, 2003 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Greenberger   Click Here to Email Bob Greenberger        Reply w/Quote
Yes, everything that DC collects in hardcover or softcover, with the sole exception of WildStorm/ABC, comes from our four-man team.

The digest size is fun but these days it's either comic sized, oversized or, as CrossGen and Dark Horse have tried, "manga" sized. Of course, there's no one size for the Japanese material and some are small enough to be digests, but you get my point. Will we do something like the "traveller" edition? Who knows.

Sales on the Archives have been steady, depending upon the character theyhave been good or okay. No stinkers.

There's been precious little work with our characters done by foreign publishers. The Batman book you mention was actually coordinated through Andy Helfer's office here in the states.

Just Imagine did okay, not as well as we had hoped and there are few people to match Stan Lee's stature to even make a similar offer.

A few Bronze Age titles come up at Archive meetings but the focus really remains on the Golden and Silver Ages.

The sampler notion is to offer people a low-priced way to read Golden Age or Silver Age stories that may lead people to the Archives themselves.

Yeah, we're counting Blackhawk as a war title since that was the focus of his stories from the beginning.

The idea of post-Wein/Wrightson and pre-Moore Swamp Things stories has never really been explored.

The non-Azzarello HELLBLAZER is set for later this year.

DNewton, since I've made it clear the trades need to work on their own, collecting a strong story, how does shoe-horning in an unrelated story help? It certainly won't lead enough people to a monthly comic to either save the comic's poor sales or withstand the criticism from readers (and potential our bookstore buyers) for the plan. While it makes perfect sense to you, it's not at all commercially viable.

Funny, just this last week we were talking about some Batman material from the last few years. Nothing decided yet, but we'll see. I also may have to come back here and admit I was wrong about something I stated more than once.

Nope, nothing planned for FINAL NIGHT.

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dylanfan
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posted February 11, 2003 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dylanfan   Click Here to Email dylanfan        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Bob Greenberger:
DNewton, since I've made it clear the trades need to work on their own, collecting a strong story, how does shoe-horning in an unrelated story help? It certainly won't lead enough people to a monthly comic to either save the comic's poor sales or withstand the criticism from readers (and potential our bookstore buyers) for the plan. While it makes perfect sense to you, it's not at all commercially viable.

After all, the essence of collected editions program is to reprint Batman comics in a Batman trade, and Wonder Woman comics in a Wonder Woman trade. The idea that the whole program has to serve a dual purpose to save one particular floppy sales dog makes little practical sense.

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Amentep
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posted February 11, 2003 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amentep   Click Here to Email Amentep        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Bob Greenberger: quote:
The war stuff has done all right, but not enough for us to schedule anything more as of today.

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Originally posted by Mike Falcon:
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Darn, I really enjoyed Enemy Ace and Blackhawk (I haven't tried Sgt. Rock yet).
Looking forwar to future volumes of these series and of course the inclusion of the Unknown Soldier and Haunted Tank.


Hmmm, pity to hear this, While I have mild interest in Enemy Ace and Blackhawk [and not a lot of interest in Sgt. Rock] and thus haven't picked them up, I'd love an Unknown Soldier collection [probably the only war series that ever really got my attention].

Still I suppose in time it might happen...

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SNW21
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posted February 11, 2003 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SNW21        Reply w/Quote
Hi Mr. Greenberger!

I've got just one quick question for you.

Question:
1)Will there be a trade paperback for Zero Hour again? If so, when can it be expected to come out?

Thank you very much in advance for answering this question.

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monkey
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posted February 11, 2003 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for monkey   Click Here to Email monkey        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Bob Greenberger:
The non-Azzarello HELLBLAZER is set for later this year.

Thank you, sir, for responding!
If I may get greedy for a while:
I've only discovered Hellblazer with all the tpbs that're out now. I like this book.
I see you only mentioned "non-Azzarello". Does that mean it will be a collection of Carey's current work, or will it be another Ennis (maybe Jenkins)?

Just wondering!

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stoter1
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posted February 11, 2003 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stoter1        Reply w/Quote
Hey Rob, I know that you commented earlier about how unlikely an Adam Hughes art book would be because DC doesnt ususlaly do books focussed on artists. Howvere, I have recently read that there is an Alex Ross coffee table book coming out showcasing his DC work. Is this going to start a new trend of such books? also, with respect to Alex's coffee table book, is there going to be any original art in it? what can you tell us about the book? Finally, have you given any thought to having Ross do an original HC book for DC like the book Kubert is working on? Thanks

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Kamandi2
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posted February 11, 2003 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kamandi2   Click Here to Email Kamandi2        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Bob Greenberger:
The digest size is fun but these days it's either comic sized, oversized or, as CrossGen and Dark Horse have tried, "manga" sized. Of course, there's no one size for the Japanese material and some are small enough to be digests, but you get my point. Will we do something like the "traveller" edition? Who knows.

I love the archives. Unfortunately, I can't afford them (I own less than 10). I would love to see them reprinted in the smaller, "traveller," size like the CrossGen (Forge and Edge) books with a similar price point.

I would purchase the entire line-up produced to date in that format if the price was in line with what CrossGen charges for theirs.

I'd also love to see the "Best of DC Blue Ribbon Digest" return to the monthly schedule in that format with collected stories for a certain theme or character. It would be a lot of fun and would probably go over well in the bookstores.

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Mart
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posted February 11, 2003 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mart   Click Here to Email Mart        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Bob Greenberger:
There's been precious little work with our characters done by foreign publishers. The Batman book you mention was actually coordinated through Andy Helfer's office here in the states.



This likely wouldn't interest anyone other than as a curiousity, but Egmont published a Superman special originated for Europe about ten years ago. I'm trying to remember the details - it was a new take on either Superman Red and Blue, or the Sword of Superman. Perhaps by Len Wein and Alex Saviuk (though I'm seeing Gil Kane in my head).

Oh dear, I'm just confusing things, sorry

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jape
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posted February 11, 2003 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jape   Click Here to Email jape        Reply w/Quote
You know you're getting old when '10 years ago' turns out to be 20. 'The Startling Saga of Superman Red and Superman Blue', script by Paul Kupperberg, art by Adrian Gonzalez and Vince Colletta was published here in the UK in 1982 as Superman Spectacular no.1. The follow-up, somewhat predictably called Superman Spectacular no. 2, was published the same year, the story's called 'Superman Meets the Zod Squad' - script by Cary Bates, art by Saviuk and Colletta. Both are squarebound paperbacks the same size as the early Marvel Graphic Novels. Both stories are 48 pages long, and are in continuity with the regular Superman books of the time, ie Earth 1, pre-Crisis. So at that point, at least, DC was producing bespoke material for overseas publishers. What else is out there?

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James Friel
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posted February 11, 2003 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Friel   Click Here to Email James Friel        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Bob Greenberger:
Just Imagine did okay, not as well as we had hoped and there are few people to match Stan Lee's stature to even make a similar offer.

The only person of sufficient stature I can think of is Will Eisner, and I doubt that he'd be interested at this point in his career. Pity the offer was never made to Kirby.

quote:
Originally posted by Bob Greenberger:
Yeah, we're counting Blackhawk as a war title since that was the focus of his stories from the beginning.

I was afraid you'd say that. I don't suppose there's much point in asking how long, at current rates of sale, it's likely to be....

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James Friel
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posted February 11, 2003 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Friel   Click Here to Email James Friel        Reply w/Quote
Just Imagine: Superman created by R.Crumb

Just Imagine: Batman created by art spiegelman

Just Imagine: Wonder Woman created by S.Clay Wilson

Just Imagine: Plastic Man created by Gilbert Shelton

Just Imagine: any western character you can name created by Jack Jackson (that one's serious).

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Coleo
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posted February 11, 2003 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coleo   Click Here to Email Coleo        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by James Friel:
The only person of sufficient stature I can think of is Will Eisner, and I doubt that he'd be interested at this point in his career. Pity the offer was never made to Kirby.

Sorry to go off course a little here, but I think the novelty of the Just Imagine premise was entirely in having a name synonymous with *The* rival publisher (and a very different style of comics, at least at first) consorting with the enemy, so to speak. So I can see Eisner, who managed to become a legend while steering clear of the Big 2 completely (although I do love that pin-up in Superman #400)--but Kirby? He did a substantial body of work at DC, and we've already seen his take on a number of DC's high profile concepts, even if only in the pitiful Super Powers mini-series. Same goes for ditko, although he managed to keep to himself more in his DC work.

I'm more interested in the concept in reverse, using a creator associated almost exclusively with DC for decades--i.e. Just Imagine Joe Kubert creating Sgt. Fury, Daredevil, Namor, Ka-Zar, etc...although Joe has said that he has little interest in working on anybody else's characters anymore. Carmine Infantino and Jim Aparo would also be interesting on a number of Marvel characters. Just Imagine Julie Schwartz *editing* the Marvel Universe would be fascinating to me, but not exactly an easy sell. Too many of the top-level creators still with us jumped back and forth between Marvel and DC to make their interpretations very novel.

In the realm of *real* just imagining, think about Seigel and Shuster on, say, the FF or Thor.

Cole

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Coleo
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posted February 11, 2003 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coleo   Click Here to Email Coleo        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by James Friel:
The only person of sufficient stature I can think of is Will Eisner, and I doubt that he'd be interested at this point in his career. Pity the offer was never made to Kirby.

Sorry to go off course a little here, but I think the novelty of the Just Imagine premise was entirely in having a name synonymous with *The* rival publisher (and a very different style of comics, at least at first) consorting with the enemy, so to speak. So I can see Eisner, who managed to become a legend while steering clear of the Big 2 completely (although I do love that pin-up in Superman #400)--but Kirby? He did a substantial body of work at DC, and we've already seen his take on a number of DC's high profile concepts, even if only in the pitiful Super Powers mini-series. Same goes for ditko, although he managed to keep to himself more in his DC work.

I'm more interested in the concept in reverse, using a creator associated almost exclusively with DC for decades--i.e. Just Imagine Joe Kubert creating Sgt. Fury, Daredevil, Namor, Ka-Zar, etc...although Joe has said that he has little interest in working on anybody else's characters anymore. Carmine Infantino and Jim Aparo would also be interesting on a number of Marvel characters. Just Imagine Julie Schwartz *editing* the Marvel Universe would be fascinating to me, but not exactly an easy sell. Too many of the top-level creators still with us jumped back and forth between Marvel and DC to make their interpretations very novel.

In the realm of *real* just imagining, think about Seigel and Shuster on, say, the FF or Thor.

Cole

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Coleo
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posted February 11, 2003 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coleo   Click Here to Email Coleo        Reply w/Quote
Even more sorry to double-post the above. James, jumping over to underground/indie artists is brilliant. Just Imagine Harvey Pekar on the Teen Ttians, or Chris Ware on Ambush Bug.

Cole

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Coleo
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posted February 11, 2003 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coleo   Click Here to Email Coleo        Reply w/Quote
After a few minutes of reflection, I can't think of anything better than Just Imagine Bob Haney creating The Death of Captain Marvel.

Cole

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posted February 11, 2003 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vze2        Reply w/Quote
Just Imagine Alan Moore creating anything for DC again.

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posted February 11, 2003 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dnewton        Reply w/Quote
Bob:
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Since I've made it clear the trades need to work on their own, collecting a strong story, how does shoe-horning in an unrelated story help? It certainly won't lead enough people to a monthly comic to either save the comic's poor sales or withstand the criticism from readers (and potential our bookstore buyers) for the plan. While it makes perfect sense to you, it's not at all commercially viable.

Do you want Power Company to fail - because that's what it will do if it:
A - doesn't get the 1st 6 issues in a TPB.
B - at least 1 1-shot in a trade of a different book.
I'm not trying to be rude - it's just that there should be more exposure for low selling books (Doom Patrol, Power Company).

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DStepp
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posted February 11, 2003 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DStepp   Click Here to Email DStepp        Reply w/Quote
Please let me step forward and state that what DNewton has proposed demonstrates a vast ignorance of marketing in general and publishing specifically. I think we all see this and it should be tabled (or more accurately, canned).

Bob, let me invite you not to engage this matter further since I think most people see the pointlessness of that path.

DNewton, Bob Greenberger is here to give us what insight he can into the Collected Edition publishing schedule. He is not here to defend DC's publishing policies to you or anyone else nor is here to be held accountable for titles you like that no one else does. Please try to conduct yourself in a manner consistent with others you see on this board.

D.

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gothcityfan
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posted February 11, 2003 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gothcityfan   Click Here to Email gothcityfan        Reply w/Quote
On dcu crossovers, hardcover/softcover conversion, and why the power company suggestion is illogical.

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Originally posted by segaboi24:
2.was there a tpb of The Final Night and if so any chance of it being brought back.if not any possibility of getting one done

-Just to add to bob's comment of no final night plans. There WAS a final night tpb. Couldnt have gone out of print too long ago, since i ordered it from previews about 2 yrs ago. Actually, to summarize the annual company wide crossovers (which thnk gd seem to be dying, i mean i like them, but they seem to do more harm than good), crisis (thoe dc original), zero hour (94), underworld unleashed (95), final night (96), and dc one million (98) have been reprinted. Genesis (97), day of judgment (99), and last laugh (01) have not been reprinted. I think there's a market for day of judgment, though, as its geoff johns first high profile gig, and reintroes hal jordan into a pivotal dcu role, and some are hal loyalists (although that doesnt explain spectre's poor sales)


-Also, bob, is it assured that every original hc, once sold out in that form, will be released in sc? I ask b/c ive bought some recent hc's for fear they wont make it to sc, and i personally greatly cherish the $10 over the hc treatment.

Over the last few yrs ive noticed, however, that seemignyl every original hc makes it to softcover eventually, such as the jla hc's and the batman hc's of the past few yrs. Can we assume this will continue for such titles as absolution and selinas big score? (although i would understand if child of dreams remained in hc, since thats a bit of an exception, and at 24.95, generally a sc reprinting that amount of monthly material would only go for $5 less, in fact id be surprised if its released in sc)


-Oh, and i agree with just about everyone else. The power company proposal doesnt make much sense. A standalone power company tpb, maybe (sales would be an issue). But shoving the one shots into other tpb's? That would only serve to royally p o those who pay extra for something they dont want. It doesnt make sense for them to be added for free, and if this scenario did occur in exampleland, im sure the vast majority of those buying these tpb's for their fave characters will skip the power company story, thereby not attracting new readers. Then, the majority who do read it (who are a minority of the buyers themselves) will probably not be impressed into buying power company, simly because its very hard to hook people from single issues. Watchmen is the greatest comic of all time, but if it was a poor selling comic and i came across the first issue, i wouldnt know that. Lets say the one-shots are so unbeliavable that it entices a reader, what are they going to do now? Buy 6 other tpb's for over $60 of characters they may dislike just to get the one-shots included in those trades? I hope that whomever suggested this know see why this wouldnt make sense. I could talk more on this, but i think ive said enough to explain some reasons its not a logical idea in the least.

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XXXenophile
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posted February 11, 2003 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for XXXenophile   Click Here to Email XXXenophile        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by gothcityfan:


-Also, bob, is it assured that every original hc, once sold out in that form, will be released in sc? I ask b/c ive bought some recent hc's for fear they wont make it to sc, and i personally greatly cherish the $10 over the hc treatment.

Over the last few yrs ive noticed, however, that seemignyl every original hc makes it to softcover eventually, such as the jla hc's and the batman hc's of the past few yrs. Can we assume this will continue for such titles as absolution and selinas big score? (although i would understand if child of dreams remained in hc, since thats a bit of an exception, and at 24.95, generally a sc reprinting that amount of monthly material would only go for $5 less, in fact id be surprised if its released in sc)


I would think at this point its a fair assumption to say that as soon as DC sells out of the HC editions plans are made for SC editions to soon hit the market. It's just a matter of how long it takes. Look how long it took Crimson Mist to come out in SC.

Though this must mean DC has a lot of HC copies of Batman: Digital Justice lying around. :-)

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posted February 11, 2003 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for XXXenophile   Click Here to Email XXXenophile        Reply w/Quote
I think the only Eisner project peole would really want to see is a "wonder if its really ever gonna happen" Batman/Spirit meeting.

And even then it would be an Elseworlds.

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